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the fact that the fed is stepping on the gas, and, depending on what happens with the fiscal cliff and of course the economy next year, i think the dollar is going to drift a little bit weaker. nothing dramatic, but i think it will drift a little weaker as the year progresses. > thanks tim. have a good trading day. > > thanks. just in time for the holidays, hostess brands' layoff of more than 18,000 employees is part of a bulge in end-of-the-year layoffs this year. job cuts are up for the third straight month, and our cover story looks at whether this is a trend that may continue in the new year. job cuts nationwide were up for the third consecutive month in november. november would have been lower, but hostess brands' 18,500 layoffs as a part of bankruptcy pushed the number higher. "it's not a reflection of the strength of the economy as a whole." since january, the number of announced layoffs is actually 13% lower than it was in 2011. that's despite a dreadful january and february that saw more than 50,000 layoffs at american airlines, pepsico, j.c. penney, metlife and procter an
in sight for the fiscal cliff hanger. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another wee>> why speaker says the president's my way or the highway approach is getting us nowhere. >> the feds are borrowing nearly a billion dollars a day. so why is the white house saying reducing our debt not really the goal? >> thank you, eric, it's the most watched video on the internet of all time. he is set to perform for the president. gangnam style said about our soldiers a few years ago. that controversy kicking up this morning. "fox & friends" hour one begins right now. >> get out the coffee. wake up, everyone, thank you so much for waking up with tus, it is "fox & friends" on this saturday morning. dave bowling in for dave briggs. >> come in and do the show with us today. more filling in today than the regulars. we are glad to be on with you clayton. >> you are on an interesting morning because congress now just 23 days left, 23 days until we head off that flif. fiscal cliff. if you listened to speaker boehner yesterday he is reading reports th
on the wealthy. he says this is needed to avert the impending fiscal cliff of automatic austerity measures that could drag the economy into recession. obama said on wednesday that federal revenues will not reach the level needed to implement his proposals to cut the deficit unless taxes are raid on the wealthy. >> there is a bottom-line amount of revenue that is required in order for us to get a real, meaningful deficit reduction plan. >> obama added that if republican officials acknowledged this reality, the actual numbers proposed by each party are not that far apart. republicans have made a counteroffer. they want to raise revenue by reviewing the current tax deduke system. house speaker john boehner has urged the president to compromise. >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. now we need a response from the white house. >> unless the two sides reach an agreement by the end of this year, the automatic tax increases and spending cuts will take effect in the new year. >>> time to get a check on the markets now. the nikkei here in tokyo rose above the
of the fiscal cliff situation denting consumer confidence and business confidence so you really need ben bernanke in there. on friday.t news >> unemployment report was better than expected but needs to be better than that. >> buzz in washington about whether susan rice or john kerry will be the next secretary of state and i'm told the president hasn't made up his mind yet and may not make up his mind until january. he wants to get the fiscal cliff business done with so don't be in a rush to await that decision. chris: when we return, the the week, will barack obama's scores in the second term be on foreign policy or here at home? chris: welcome back. syria, egypt and afghanistan are just the foreign policy challenges we already know about russia out china and there which brings us to the big question this week -- will the president's second term triumphs be abroad or here at home? >> i think his second term will be defined by foreign policy and looming confrontation over iran. chris: politco has spoken. >> despite all of the domestic issues, he will have a bigger role to play on the worl
it matters to your point what happens with the fiscal cliff. the economy is at stalemate. unemployment, we look at jobs report tomorrow, is dismal. we're liking inflationary environment down the road. this is bad news. >> you could could make the argument invite blowing past short term helpful, long term payne full. melissa: spending cuts, tax hikes are very dramatic going over the cliff. when you look at numbers, still is like five to one raising taxes to cutting spending. >> that's right. melissa: no one is really talking about cutting spending. isn't that the first thing you would do? if your fiscal house was in such disarray, household at home, first thing you do is stop spending. no one is doing that. >> what scares me, is that point. whether you agree or disagree hiking taxes i am not a fan of it but i think it will come. we can get past this. charlie gasparino and i have argued this. one of the consequences of the election the president will probably get his way raising most rates. melissa: right. >> i'm not saying i'm a fan. let's get past that, let's make it happen. republicans re
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their tax burdens will be like this year. the impact that the fiscal cliff could have on the economy will go up across the board. >> as we get closer and closer to the end of the year i think the uneasiness will continue and the worry we might not see a resolution is going to effect our market. >> it has an impact or hiring as well. physical we go over the cliff the long-term benefits will in fact expire at the end of the year. as the president visited a family in virginia to talk about tax hikes on the wealthy there were few talks on if is clal cliff talks. >> i am not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rates from going up for folks at the top two percent. >> this isn't about getting a handle on debt for him it's about spending more than he already has. >> as far as the unp employment numbers are concerned today there is little doubt that super storm sandy had an impact on those. the expectation is that it dissipated a great degree. back to you guys. >>> doug luzader in washington, thank you. >> it is time to look at who is talking. we are hearing from bill o'reilly tod
to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and jobs the white house has wasted another week. secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on and had more stimulus spending than in cuts. and an indefinite increase in the debt limit like for ever. now four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no count offer from the white house. instead reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has got a spending problem, not a revenue problem. if the president doesn't agree with our proposal, i believe he's got an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a plan that can
than $600 billion in tax increases and spending cuts kick in. the fiscal cliff potentially sending the economy into recession. the fear of the cliff. is that putting a veil over your eyes and pretending you seeing good news that could make better trades for your portfolio? you need to see the forest for the trees. to help do that, liz saunders in a fox business exclusive, charles schwab's vice president and chief investment strategist. what is the biggest mistake that the investor is making right now as it pertains to navigating that very rocky fiscal cliff landscape? >> they are trying to trade around perceived outcomes. that is fairly treacherous. we don't get a sense that a lot of investors are doing that -- [talking over each other] liz: there were buying in on the dips because they are trading around he headlines. >> there's a lot of tax related strategy happening right now, many of which make a lot of sense, but i have asked the question of loss, what would you put money on a particular outcome? i wouldn't. that is a dangerous strategy. >> one scenario could be as damaging a
is a grand bargain to deal with the terrible state of our economy, we're fiscally bankrupt, we didn't have the dollar, we might be greece, we have got to deal with our debt bomb, we have got to face the fiscal cliff that's coming in a couple of weeks. >> so you know what both sides are saying? the president is saying there's no way to make the math work. without raising the rates for the top income earners and that the republicans should give on this. >> yeah. >> do you think he's right? >> well, i understand that position, that was the position he took during the campaign. but what has to happen in my view, you've got to have everything on the table, you have to have revenue increases. now how you get those to revenue increases was an item of discussion during the campaign, and it's an item more negotiation, i for one think you can get there by eliminating and broadeninging the tax base which eliminating loopholes and deductions. the truth of the matter is that we're not undertaxed as americans, we overspend. i think everything would agree that we overspend that's why we have this debt to
slow- walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: behind the scenes, progress is being made, but democrats are still arguing they've given ground in previous budget battles. that's one reason they are holding firm on higher taxes now. >> $1.6 trillion in cuts. "where are the cuts?" they are in bills that you, mr. speaker, he voted for. >> reporter: and there were new calls for more tax revenue today. warren buffett, vanguard founder john bogle, and financier george soros were among the famous names to call for a tougher estate tax. their proposal would exempt couples with up to $4 million in assets from the estate tax. above that level, estates would pay a 45% tax rate, rising to 50% or more on very large estates. supporters say that would both bring in badly needed revenue and help protect our democracy. >> it works to reduce concentrations of economic and poticapoweacro generations, and those concentrations are antithetical to the basic premise, if you will, of the founding of our republic, which was that it was a land of opportunity. and
and academia the cost the middle class perspectives on the economy and the fiscal cliff. this is an hour. what were you going to say? what's i think they go hand in hand. from a business perspective, large corporations are sitting on lots of cash. they are uncertain of what the future will bring. that is the economic future, but the future of tax policy and the rest of that. that is keeping the economy back. if we can reach a deal where we are not coming to blows every six months or one year on what tax policy will look like for another six months, that will give us confidence and will create jobs people want. i am not sure if there is a bifurcation between what washington is focused on and what people want. i think this is about jobs and economic growth. >> i did find one thing surprising. behind retirement programs, social security and medicare, seems to be job creation, deficit reduction was off of the table. what came in the third or fourth every time and then to about six questions in terms of what is on people's mines is the extent to which higher education is available and to the extent
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president that the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we will continue to see trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. washington has a spending3 problem, not a revenue problem. if the president does not agree with our proposal, i believe he has an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own. we are ready and eager to talk to the president about such plan. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week, can you characterize that call. also, it has to be increases in rates for the wealthy or no deal. >> the phone call was pleasant, but more of the same. it is time for the president to be serious and come back with a counter offer. [inaudible question] >> the risk the president wants us to take, increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60-70% of the new jobs in our country. that is the whole issue. [inaudible question] >> i think that is reckless talk. [inaudible question] >> listen, raising
. the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> good morning. the president has said on a daily basis that we should be passing a balanced plan. but what we hear from the president is continuing only discussion on one side of the ledger. it has always been about tax rate increases, and nothing about spending. and we insist, say, look, mr. president, let's talk about a balanced plan, but where are your specifics on the spending cuts? even his own advisers say that any kind of agreement that we come to has to deal with the prime drivers of our deficit, which is the spending, particularly the health care entitlement programs. so we ask the president to please sit down with us and be specific and let's get that balanced plan. you know, it's interesting that the senate has passed a bill that is a bill calling for increased revenues of $850 billion. the president continues to say, support that bill, pass that bill. well, how is that the case when he continues to say we also need $1.4
think. first, forget the fiscal cliff, because the economy is coming back. americans are feeling more optimistic about 2013 and if we play our cards right, we're going to see a new economic renaissance. td ameritrade recently surveyed folks on their outlook for the new year. 43% say they're downright optimistic about the economy and believe we're headed for a rebound. 45% are feeling good about their own finances, but we already know that things are starting to get better. look, we're adding jobs every month, consumer debt continues to shrink. stock markets are up. longer term, though. america will reap the rewards of its domestic energy boom and more oil and gas gets extracted. the drop in the price of natural gas is already helping utilities and factories compete. that's creating more american jobs. and there is more. housing will be the golden lining to the economic cloud that is hanging over this country. mortgage rates are at historic low and should stay that way for the next two years but home prices have seen their bottom and are heading back up. when they do, confidence goes u
to be any closer to a resolution on the fiscal cliff even though many are warning that the economy could face dire consequences if there is no agreement but one strategist says, why are you worrying about december 31st? that deadline isn't even the real fiscal cliff. david: that strategist is none other than peter schiff, ceo of europacific precious metals. friend of the show. peter, although i wish it was under better circumstances. you say the real cliff coming is bigger han the housing mess, bigger than the housing crisis we went through. it's the bond mess. specifically when the fed stops printing money to buy up treasurys all hell will break loose, right? >> well, and if it continues to print money it will be a bigger hell. if we avoid the fiscal cliff we end up throwing the dollar over the currency cliff because we send a message to the world america will never pay its bills. we'll keep borrowing money until the creditors cut us off. that is when interest rates skyrocket. the pressure on the fed and if the fed caves in to buy up all the bonds nobody wants we destroy the dollar. th
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? he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give you the latest details, including the newly released identity of the man. >>> internet pioneer john mcafee is on his way back to the united states. kate bolduan is monitoring that story and others. >> guatemala officials escorted him to the airport and he boarded the plane to miami after a deportation order from guatemala. he is wanted for questioning in belize over the death of a neighbor. we've been following his story pretty closely. mcafee was held in guatemala for a week. he made his fortune from the anti-virus software that bears his name. >>> also, jacob tyler roberts was the lone gunman in the shooting at t
because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> morris, what can be accomplished face-to-face between these two men? that's our number two. >> well listen. boehner is starting to remind me of newt gingrich. remember the whole situation where newt gingrich got upset with clinton, he wanted to shut down government. this speaker be a student of history. this is a bad situation for you. this i not a situation where he has to sit down face-to-face with the president. remember we have a presidential system, not a parliamentary system. i would like to remind my colleague susan. republicans los seats in every chamber. you didn't have mandate. you los your seats in both chambers. you need to come and deal with the -- >> i said members of congress had a mandate. >> you need to deal with the will of the public. it was very clear thought was about 250,000. not warren buffett, warren buffett, average americans, $250,000. mr. speaker, whether you sit down with the president or the
covering the economy and fiscal cliff negotiations. we will have it live for you when it happens after the top of the hour on "street signs." i think that's why the mark set stuck right now. we were up about 30 point. we lot of a little p. we are up 17 now. s&p 500 is up a half point. in terms of the nasdaq, we are up just about 7 point. steve grasso is with us. what does the market want it hear from the president at 2:00? >> they want to hear a deal is close to booeb beieing done. fund managers don't want to take a leg and step into the abyss of the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. we heard a short term patch is not going to avoid us from another drown grade. if you are a fund manager, do you punt in december? i think not. you wait. >> does downgrade matter? >> you did see the collapse in the market because the market always is a good lead time for you. so leading indicator. . the best leading indicator is the s&p 500 so we have seen just sitting here in no man's land. >> it is as flat as my ekg. >> god for bid. >> yeah. >> normally, might well be a big topic. >> did you say anything? >>
in this country should of course we go over that fiscal cliff. what is that going to do to the economy and ability to create jobs next year? >> the last thing the economy needs right now is for a big tax hike on the middle class. the $2,200 tax increase for the typical family you alluded to, we calculate that would cause consumer spending to fall by $200 billion next year. that would cut the growth of consumption by 1.7 percentage points and shave 1.4 percentage points off gdp growth. there's a simple solution here which is just to extend middle class tax cuts which the senate has already done. >> we got good numbers this morning. i'm willing to take them at face value. better than a bid. not great. we want 400,000 jobs. do we still need to spend so much money on the payroll tax cut and extended unemployment gains given the fact that we got good news today? >> first and foremost, we need to extend middle class tax cuts. that should be our highest priority. the economy can still use support in the short-term. i think the more we do for the long-term to show that we're on a fiscally sustainable path
. when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening the economy and jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago the treasury secretary came here to offer a plan that had twice the planned tax hikes the president campaigned on. more stimulus spending than the added cuts, and did and didn't but net -- in definite increase on the debt limit. four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there has been no counter offer from the white house. instead, records indicate the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. intent of reforming the tax code, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hikes he wanted, understand we would continue to see trillion dollar deficit for a start -- far is that i can see. listed, washington has a problem spending, not the revenue problem. the president does not agree with our proposal. i believe is an obligation to families and small businesses to offer a plan of his own, a pla
, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> two .o.p. lawmakers here to share their reactions next. can china take over america? is it already happening under our noses? why one author says absolutely, s. also, ford motor company under fire for misleading customers. it's enough to make your blood boil. we'll weigh in on the hybrids' possible false advertising. possible false advertising. we're on the case next on " twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes invement objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function.
the process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> two g.o.p. lawmakers here to share their reactions next. can china take over america? is it already happening under our noses? why one author says absolutely, yes. also, ford motor company under fire for misleading customers. it's enough to make your blood boil. we'll weigh in on the hybrids' possible false advertising. we're on the case next on "the willis report." tracy: speaker boehner warning the white house to be serious to call cliff, and the majority leader throwing in the towel saying it's difficult to reach a deal by christmas. crazy. with more, senator barrasso from wyoming. do you have any idea what's in the counteroffer? >> i don't have the final details on that, tracy. we have to avert the fiscal cliff. my concern is it drives us into recession, knocks up employment up, and i agree with you, we have to ensure more people have more of their own money in the pockets to decide what to save, spend, what to invest, and anything that hurts our fragile economy, i think is bad for all americans, especially those l
this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are lacplaced in jeopardy. >> well, they talk and we all listen and then we decide who we appreciate more. it's in the form of a poll who is handling these negotiations better. the latest abc news "washington post" poll says 49% of americans think president obama is doing a better job of all of this, while only 25% say they approve of speaker boehner's efforts. those aren't the numbers you want to see if you're the speaker right now. our senior congressional correspondent dana bash has been working her sources throughout the morning, joining me live now from washington. one of the things i see, dana, that's so frustrating, is we get a lot of rhetoric on television and we hear later about secret conversations. i just wonder how much rhetoric is going on behind closed doors or if they're really getting closer. >> reporter: well, you just mentioned there was a monphone l between the speaker and the president, and by all accounts, it really did not go well. i'm learning new information about why that m
the white house slow walks this discussion, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff, and the more american jobs are placed in jeopardy. >> so what's really going on behind the scenes? earlier i spoke with republican senator jeff sessions, who's been asking the same question, and i asked him how much he, as the ranking member of the senate budget committee, actually knows about what's going on. >> very little. almost nothing, frankly. i mean, i learned from sources that the speaker was disappointed and things were not moving forward as well as he seemed to have indicated right there in those public remarks. but otherwise, really, we don't know. and the people that are losing in this process, this secret process, are the american people. they'll be the ones asked to pay more taxes. they may be the ones that are asked to tighten their belts. and they need to know what the choices are and what we're wrestling with. and they need to know how their congressmen and senators stand and feels about these issues. and i really think the classic understanding of the way congress should operate
on the fiscal cliff. when you are focused on uncertainty, what do you do, you do nothing. those are the major implementations for the economy. cheryl: i can hear the hesitancy in your voice. a lot of our guests are saying the same thing. they are afraid of what washington will do or maybe not do. your outlook is a bit more bullish than some of your colleagues. what are you saying in the second half of 2013 that others are not? >> on a very short-term basis, we have noticed there are a couple of things. the fiscal cliff. we cannot get out of the way of that. if you look at to the second half of 2013 that we can get some resolution, we may not like the total resolution, but if we can, you move past a period of uncertainty. three things have started in 2012 that could accelerate in 2013. housing is key. cheryl: it has done incredibly well this year. >> the second aspect is what is going on with the energy field, in terms of technology and energy less dependence for the u.s. the third factor is what is going on in manufacturing. you can talk about the creation of jobs in the u.s. economy. if you
to be there. host: how will the fiscal cliff negotiations affect you? will you lose benefits? caller: i will lose benefits at the end of december, and i will have to go on county assistance to see what they can do to help, but i would rather go back to work. i started picking work when i was 12 years old. host: what are you doing to prepare for the scenario? caller: i am trying to get my ged but i have always had a problem with education. guest: this is a huge issue. people like john are not at the negotiation table. it is tough to consider the full range of decisions. what we find time and time again is that the education and skills component of helping unemployed workers get back into the workforce is a big obstacle. we have 40 programs on the federal level to deal with that, but based on analysis out of rutgers university, is usually people that have been able to find their own education path and get their own skills and out of these government programs have been the most successful. that is a problematic dynamic. host: lisa is next from texas on the independent line. good morning. c
in the fiscal cliff. after that, a panel on innovation and the economy. later a conversation about have the fiscal deadline could affect the defense budget. >> on tomorrow morning's "washington journal," we continue our look at the so- called fiscal clef and what happens if the budget cuts take place in january. jim doyle the effect on businesses. after that, charles clark looks at domestic program cuts. in more about the issue with the brookings institution. bless your e-mail, phone calls, and tweets. that is live tuesday at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> next, president obama talking about the economy and the need to reach an agreement with congress on the january fiscal deadline. he spoke at a diesel plant outside of detroit. his remarks are about 25 minutes. >> hello, redford! [applause] it is good to be back in michigan. [applause] how is everybody doing today? [applause] now, let me just start off by saying we have something in common -- both our teams lost yesterday. [laughter] i mean, i would like to come here and talk a little smack about the bears, but we didn't quite get it
. we'll be taking that u with the a-team here tonight. stay with us. >>> the fiscal cliff fiasco. the obama plan, the boehner plan, will either alter america's rising rate of spending or lessen the size our bloatedgornment? the answer in tonight's chalk talk. >>is the housing market really recovering? $17 trillion is riding on the answer. the president and ceo o citi mortgage joins us next. [beep] [indistinct chatter] [kids talking at once] [speaking foreign language] [heart beaeating] [heartbeat continues] [faint singing] [heartbeat, music playi loude ♪ i'm feeling better since you knome ♪ ♪ i was a lonely soul, but that's the old me... ♪ announcer: thisong was created with heartbeats of children ineed. find out how it can help frontline e health workers bring hope to millions of children at everybeatmatters.org. lou: new rorts show foreign investment is heingthe housg market slowly recover. citimortgage president and ceo sanjiv das joins us here in just moments to discuss thatnd much more when it comesto housing. in the money lineonight, investors waiting cautiously to
-team here tonight. stay with us. >>> the fiscal cliff fiasco. the obama plan, the boehner plan, will either alter america's rising rate of spending or lessen the size of our bloated government? the answer in tonight's chalk talk. >>> is the housing market really recovering? $17 trillion is riding on the answer. the president and ceo of citi mortgage joins us next. twins. i dn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligation b obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is eep. introducing the ishares core, budinglos for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 ilarge professisional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectis, risks, charges and expenses. ad and consider itarefully bere investing. ri includes possible ss of principal. lou: new reports show foreign investment is helping the housing market slowly recover. citimortgage president and ceo sanjiv das joins us here in just moments to discuss that and much more when it comes to housing. in the mo
-called fiscal cliff that could send our economy into another recession. in these difficult times we're challenged by people we represent to find real solutions, not short-term band-aids. as we move forward, it's clear that we must discuss spending. emphasize that word "spending." i know that president obama is hyperfocussed on increasing taxes as part of his deficit-reduction proposal, and i think the the election shows that he's legitimate in doing that. but he could have really declared victory about three weeks ago and in the three weeks since then spend time talking about the expenditure side of the ledger. because if we're going to be serious about reducing our debt, we must talk about spending. not some time next year, not only after we talk about taxes. we must talk about spending and talk about it now. we need to have a thoughtful conversation that focuses upon where federal spending most calls for control and containment, and that's the purpose of my charts today. and that's the purpose of my remarks. and we must have a thoughtful conversation where our federal spending is
to see in the u.s. economy. liz: are we wasting too much time on fiscal cliff discussion and the potential effect on our money, should we not be focusing on these other issues and somehow bulletproof our investments as it pertains to each one of these concerns. we talk about doubling up. >> we should make pay more attention to europe. the attention we're paying to the fiscal cliff is not actually productive. in fact, it is leading to polarization of positions that have to be negotiated in private, and the lesson here from washington, the better i like the fiscal cliff. liz: the talks were secret today. >> might notice the financial markets are not actually very volatile in response to the special fiscal cliff. we should let it go. -@something will be resolved evn if it is only postponement, which i suppose sinc into the mt likely outcome. liz: talk mother three hidden risks bubbling up. we'll put the him on the facebok page. thank you, it is an honor to have you here. do you have a facebook page? >> the volatility institute. >> one of her students will help you put togeth
.6% contraction in the economy because of manufacturers concerns about the fiscal cliff that's coming up. and the report also showed that if we go over the cliff, meaning if we just go over it in the first few days of next year, that we could have a 13% cumulative contraction in the gdp between now and 2015. and 6 million jobs lost. now, a lot of those will come from small and medium sized manufacturers who just aren't willing to take the risk, but i think you're talking to doug in a little bit and larger companies like caterpillar and doug is the incoming chair of the national association of manufacturers, companies like caterpillar rely on those supply chains. so they want to make sure that the small and medium sized manufacturers are just as healthy as the larger. >> jay, thank you. we appreciate your time this morning. >>> coming up, police arresting john mcafee. the details next. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee
are not just going to go over the fiscal cliff? we heard tim geithner on this program yesterday when steve asked him, look f you don't get what you want, do we go over the fiscal cliff? he said absolutely. >> he said he would do it! >> what happens when we wake up january nd, we go over the cliff, and the world doesn't end? >> that is so irresponsible. >> you have to be a long-term investor. long-term stocks have outperformed bonds. >> with all do respect, george, are you one of those come play september investors larry is referring to? >> i'd say we're opposite of that. we never take anything for granted, but we bet accordingac. bonds are trouble. a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money in bonds. you have to be prepared for that. interest rates are going to go up. dividends are going to continue to increase. the economy in this country is strong. it's going to get stronger. >> even at 44% dividend tax? >> it's not going to go that high. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, it does go that high. it goes to 44%. >> no, no. don't think the worst. >> less than a month, it goes there. >
let our economy go over the fiscal cliff if a deal on higher tax rates for the wealthy is not reached? we're checking it out. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it's easy to follow the progress you're making toward all your financial goals. a quick glance, and you can see if you're on track. when the conversation turns to knowing where you stand, turn to us. wells fargo advisors. >>> welcome back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, making multiple media appearances, kle including timothy geithner right here in 25 minutes. >> but would things be done faster if it was done privately? in his latest column, jeff goldfor a compares u.s. budget talks to merger proxy battles. jeff joins us to explain about that. plus, we have bob from jones day who
and the longer the white house slow walk this is process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering, when is the president going to get serious? >> if there's one fact that should not be in dispute it ought to be this. the president unlike any other party to these negotiations has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. it is a simple fact. >> i was hoping for actual video of the grinch. to help sort things out today, we have joan walsh, editor at large of salon and did many, many things in her career and besides being steve's own boss. we are obligated to say that every single time she is on. congratulations for hiring steve. i think we have covered that. good job, joan. >> my finest moment, clearly. >> absolutely. look, there's an idea being batted around about raising the medicare age from 65 to 67. you write a lot about in it your piece today on salon.com. a lot of people exasperated at this idea. why are you against it? >> it's a terrible idea because it saves some money but i
house slow-walks this process, the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. now, if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. because right now the american people have to be scratching their heads and wondering when is the president going to get serious? >> on that question of whether or not we have put forward specific spending cuts, the answer is is we have. not only that, we signed law a trillion dollars in specific spending cuts. so if you combine what is signed into law with what we proposed versus the total absence of any specificity from the republicans for a single dollar in revenue, i think in the battle of specificity, the outcome has already been decided. >> woodruff: and a short time ago an administration official told us the president and the speaker spoke by phone this evening. now to our series of conversations on this subject and what should be done. we've listened to a range of opinions in recent days, including erskine bowles of the simpson-bowles commission; prize-win
that probably occurred with the fiscal cliff. the spring selling season begins in late january. we have been the bright spot in the economy. our industry are creating jobs, we're coming back in the early stages of a recovery so the fiscal cliff january 1 would have a huge impact on the country, and impact on our business, and we have our fingers crossed and are very hopeful washington can get something done and we'll have to see. but if they don't, there is no question there will be a little bit of time until things settle down when the buyers will hit the sidelines. liz: will it derail the tentative recovery here? >> right now we are three weeks away from this fiscal cliff date and we're still selling houses. i don't think it derails it, but there could be a pause until things get worked out. liz: part of it is being discussed, and that is the possible elimination or at least the cutting of the mortgage interest rate deduction here. on one hand you have that would really hurt this industry and we need this sector to come back on the other, doesn't everybody have to have a stake in this? how
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